“This sudden extreme case of “menopausal rage” being inflicted by a mother and wife on all around her can only be described as selfish and egocentric because every time she lashes out she is aware of how much she is affecting those around her. Menopause is being blamed for her wanting to upset her loved ones. I am a medical doctor as well as a wife and mother. I will advise both the husband & wife to get transcripts of Larry King Live “Change Your Mind , Change Your Life” 03/08/08. Basically she has to instruct her brain not to lash out and as Candace Pert , one of his guest says ‘”Our brains are wired for bliss” So do not despair ,show your wife that she is in control of what she is telling her brain to do and she can change all your lives by telling her brain that Menopause is not to blame for her outbursts.”
Monopause…..
Dear Rod Smith:
Thank you for opening the debate up to the public with regards to the woman who is going through an angry menopause.
During menopause especially but also before her period (the infamous PMS) a woman is more in tune with what is happening in the collective.
Women have not been able to express anger for the last 5000 to 6000 years due to the patriarchal construct in which it was appropriate to submit to men. With the collapse of this system women are feeling safe enough to express their anger for the first time. After holding it back for so long is it really surprising that perhaps they are a bit incompetent.
This situation is clearly reflected in the menopausal woman’s case. No doubt she has kept her anger in check for the past 50 years and as she goes through the rite of passage to wise woman she is no longer prepared to play it like that. My guess is at this point she couldn’t really care less what others think of her.
Is her anger justified? It is difficult to tell from the letter what things she is getting angry at. I would say though that if you have eyes and heart there is little not to be angry about.
I personally stay in touch with reality not only through my intuition but also through fact finding. I read in the Mercury yesterday that a woman gets raped in South Africa every 17 seconds, which works out to 1.85 million rapes per year or 7% of the women in SA get raped every year. It appears nothing short of miraculous to get through a life without being subjugated in this way. All the women in the Congo have been raped, many with sharp objects. Apparently in America 1/5 women gets raped in her lifetime, this means that 1/5 American men are rapists. This is enough to make me stark raving mad. Perhaps in the 1940’s my partner could have sent me in for a lobotomy.
It is clear to me that pent up anger, which explodes inappropriately is rather useless both for the self and the world. Anger however shows its face when there is something wrong. I think it is high time that people start helping women to see that their anger is justified and how to use it effectively. I think if her husband loves her, he should ask her to explain why she is so angry and dedicate time and energy to the process. I also think he should endeavor to learn how to surrender to truth, when he hears it. I have little doubt that some of her anger is to do with the way that BOTH of them have constructed their relationship in the past.
I also think that she needs to do some inner work, seeing all the unconscious patterns she is playing out in order to be able to contain her anger and hone it into a laser like sharpness aimed at all the injustice of the world, personal and collective, past and present. If all angry women would do this, I think we could see a radical transformation of the world at large in a relatively short space of time. We need to believe that it is safe enough(i.e men must take a vow of non-violence and a vow to remain engaged until the situation has fully unwound) or be prepared to die for truth (virtually any man is superior in physical combat). I ascribe most forms of depression which afflicts many, many women to be a denial of anger due to the lack of safe forum. Her husband could help to create that safe space for her and for all women.
I have noted in myself, and in other women, an ‘automatic submission programme’ playing out. This often it is this that gets me into anger. I also perceive that men have an ‘automatic domination programme’ running, which gets me angry too. Looking deeper I see in women it comes out of a fear of abusing their power while men’s consciousness appears to be more polarized into a fear of being dominated. These two together set up a tricky situation in the interplay between masculine and feminine, keeping us apart, like that famous dance the Tango.
In the end, obviously it would be ideal for all people to be able to express the truth clearly enough for it to be undeniable and delivered without the presence of anger. To complement that way of a being we need a willingness to be able to surrender to truth, despite the humiliation which arises in the human psyche out of being wrong or finding out that you have been tyrannical in some witting or unwitting way.
I hope my letter finds you well. I see it is probably too long for publication, at least in the newspaper where I read your column. I trust you will contemplate it fully and if you edit it, maintain the balanced viewpoint I have attempted to convey.
Kind Regards
Barbara (last name removed by Rod
Can this relationship be saved….?
I am 35 and was in a relationship with a much younger woman (21). First, I remained distant, and it was casual. I had been badly burned and had trust issues. I recognized some of her warning signs. She was volatile, self-centered, and immature. She was a bit promiscuous with possible drinking problems. However, after a few months, and her continually telling me she loved me and wanted me to open up to her and I did. We would have fights usually after she had been drinking but my feelings grew stronger and I began to be jealous and possessive. We had bad fights that led to heavy pushing and shoving. Her friends don’t like me because it is all about getting drunk and crazy times. Now we have broken up and it seems like it may be for good. We didn’t speak for two weeks, then she called me and we met and had sex for hours but said we couldn’t be together. Can this ever work out?
While I am usually hopeful, this relationship seems toxic to the point of no return. This is a perfect example of how sex PREVENTS loving. The sex was selfish, and lustful, and merely cemented the fact that you probably have no healthy future together. Keep apart. Get yourself healthy, then you will attract healthy women.
In-laws, and how to treat them…
How one daughter-in-law chose to treat her husband’s parents…
“I knew that how a man treats his parents is generally how he will treat you. Remember who raised him. Did you think that this wonderful man came full-grown out of the sea? No, that mother and father were the ones who made him that wonderful, so give them a break. Make friends with them and you will never regret it. I had a lot of questions for them before I got married but now I feel like I am their daughter. They include me in everything. But, I made a point to make friends with them both. Without my husband I would call them and do things with them. Doing this once in awhile made my husband relax that he was not the only one ‘responsible’ for his parents. It made them like me so that if he showed up at their house without me they would either call me to come over also or shoo him home! The house next door to us was for sale last year and I begged them to buy it to live even closer. I love them dearly!” (Edited for space)
Help me through HER menopause…..!
Reader response to questions is usually helpful. In the spirit of trusting readers to know what is helpful and appropriate, apart from my suggesting the correspondent remain defined about who he is and to be patient and kind, I am going to trust I’ll get many responses to this plea which will be publishable over the next few days:
“I am at my wits end. My wife is going through menopause and has become quite maniacal in her behaviour towards others. She has developed a violent temper that leads her to respond with terrifying rage to anything and everyone. Everyone is wrong, stupid and incompetent. She is at war with her family, her neighbours, her transient friends, our pets and me. The advice she gets reinforces her view that she is right and everyone else is wrong. She threatens to divorce me because I am not the person she expects me to be. She seems incapable of any sort of reflection or introspection that might help her see that her reactions are extreme. She will probably do something stupid and dangerous. I want to help but all my efforts are spurned with abuse and contempt. Should I step back, walk away and let things take their course, and hope this will all pass?”
Another letter to the “other woman”…
“Please, wake up and smell the coffee before you get burned. Your present relationship is based on cheating and delusion all round and it can only end in hurt. The man is a cheat: cheating on his wife and family, he’s cheating you out of weekends, holidays, and other more fulfilling interests and relationships as you hang around “in case” he calls. He’s also cheating himself. Divorce, broken homes and devastated kids who’ve gone off the rails when mom and dad split, don’t make for much happiness.
“Furthermore, the forbidden fruit tastes so sweet now in its early bloom has a nasty habit of leaving a very bitter after-taste when the relationship crashes. Most married men don’t leave home for the ‘other woman.’ Come on – is this what you want out of life? I hope that you’ll realise that you don’t deserve to be fitted in when he can sneak away from family commitments.
“You are in my thoughts and, though we’ll never meet, I’ll be praying that you find a good, solid, lasting, fulfilling relationship with a man you prizes you for your lovely self and has no other hidden agendas in his life.” (Shortened)
A wife responds to post from a the “other woman”….
“I feel compelled to respond to your letter from the ‘other woman’ in a relationship with a married man.
“My husband conducted a two-year extra-marital affair after many years of marriage. We survived the shocking discovery of my husband’s infidelity, but trust and respect, once broken, are difficult things to re-build. Understanding why a husband strays from a happy and long-standing marriage is totally impossible.
“Why did your reader end the three previous relationships that ‘were headed nowhere’? She says that there was no talk of marriage yet reveals total disrespect for marriage by her actions. Why is she now conducting an illicit affair expecting nothing? Perhaps she needs to carefully consider her apparent fear of long-term commitment and the motives of both parties.
“She needs to consider the damage that she and the married man are doing, not only to themselves but to his wife and family. She selfishly asserts that he is attentive and good to her, yet tacitly accepts that he is a cheat who, by his liaison with her, desecrates what should be the most important relationship in his life. My advice to your reader is to get out of this affair now, before hearts are broken by discovery and disclosure, and seek the counseling that she obviously needs.”
To move, or not to move…..
“I am in a three-year relationship and my daughter (14) lives with us. My friend tells me he is tired of commuting from my house to work. He wants me to move to his lake home and put my daughter in school there, which would lessen his commute by 20 minutes. My daughter grew up where we live now and her dad lives close by. She does not know anyone there and moving would also cause a problem in seeing her dad. My friend finds fault with all my solutions. The move would mean my giving up my house and (before that) I want a commitment, like a ring. My friend does not want to get married. He tells me he loves me but marriage is out of the question. I am heartsick. I don’t understand how he says he cares and wants to spend the rest of his life with me but bails when marriage is mentioned. Things are falling apart. What do I do?” (Letter shortened)
Stand firm! Do what is in the best interests of your family. I’d suggest your friend move to his lake house and share weekends at your house. It seems he wants the benefits of being a spouse and co-parent without a legal contract or the responsibility entailed.
A reader writes, and your comments are encouraged…..
“I am the ‘other woman’ in a relationship. The sad thing is I have been single for the better part of nine years. I have had three serious relationships with eligible single men. These relationships lasted anywhere from a year to two years. I ended all of them because the relationships were headed nowhere. There were no talks of marriage and these men were going about their lives making decisions that let me know I was not even being considered in the future as a part of their lives.
“I have been seeing a married man for the last three months. This man has treated me better than the three relationships (single men) put together. It may be true that the relationship has no future, but because he is married I don’t expect anything. It may be true he is so attentive and good to me because he is married, but at least he recognizes he should do something to compensate.
“I guess my point is I have tried dating single men and I don’t get the same response. It is painful on weekends when he goes home. It is painful when holidays roll around and I’m alone. It is painful but the pain is temporary also.”
Brother-in-law is unkind to my sister…..
“My brother-in-law orders my sister around as if she’s his servant. He talks down to her. He demands his own way and he tells her she’s useless. My sister never complains but I can see it hurts her. Once or twice she’s started to open up to me about the way things are in her marriage but she usually clams up as if she’s being disloyal or something. Should I say anything to him? He is very nice in public but I have seen how he is in private.”
I’d suggest you continue to give your sister opportunities to talk with you. If you approach your brother-in-law directly, about his relationship with your sister, it is unlikely you will receive a listening ear. Difficult men do not like to be exposed. Your approach could serve as a catalyst for your sister to go even more deeply into her shell.
Be your sister’s friend. Be a listening ear. Ask your sister if her marriage is what she’d hoped it would be. Ask her what she intends to do to get the kind of marriage she wanted. Your love and support will be helpful. Addressing him will be taking on something that is hers and hers alone to address.